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    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. PATANE
                                            FILED
                               United States Court of Appeals
                                        Tenth Circuit
      
                                         SEP 17 2002
      
                                       PATRICK FISHER
                                            Clerk                                      PUBLISH
             
                               UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
             
                                       TENTH CIRCUIT
             
             
             
             UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,        
                                              No. 01-1503
                   Plaintiff-Appellant,             
             v.                               
                                              
             SAMUEL FRANCIS PATANE,           
                                              
             Defendant-Appellee.              
                                              
             
             
                        Appeal from the United States District Court
                                for the District of Colorado
                                  (D.C. No. 01-CR-228-WM)
             
             
             
             Joseph C. Wyderko, Attorney, Criminal Division, U.S. Department of Justice, 
             Washington, D.C. (John W. Suthers, United States Attorney; Suneeta Hazra and 
             Sean Connelly, Assistant United States Attorneys, Denver, Colorado, with him on 
             the briefs), for Plaintiff-Appellant.
             
             Jill M. Wichlens, Assistant Federal Public Defender (Michael G. Katz, Federal 
             Public Defender, with her on the brief), Denver, Colorado, for Defendant-
             Appellee.
             
             
             
             Before EBEL, ANDERSON, and HENRY, Circuit Judges.
             
             
             
             EBEL, Circuit Judge.
             
             
             
     
                  The Government appeals from the district court's order suppressing the 
             physical evidence against Samuel Francis Patane on charges of gun possession by 
             a felon.  The district court based its suppression order on its conclusion that the 
             evidence was insufficient to establish probable cause to arrest Patane.  We 
             conclude, contrary to the district court, that probable cause existed to arrest 
             Patane.  However, we affirm the district court's order on the alternative ground 
             that the evidence must be suppressed as the physical fruit of a Miranda violation.
             
                                       I.  BACKGROUND
                  Patane was indicted for possession of a firearm by a convicted felon in 
             violation of 18 U.S.C.   922(g)(1).  The district court held a suppression hearing 
             at which the police investigation leading to discovery of the gun was detailed. 
             Ruling from the bench a week later, the court granted defendant's motion to 
             suppress.  Patane's arrest resulted from the intersection of two essentially 
             independent investigations  one by Colorado Springs Detective Josh Benner 
             regarding Patane's gun possession, and another by Colorado Springs Officer 
             Tracy Fox regarding Patane's violation of a domestic violence restraining order.
                  The story begins when Patane was arrested for harassing and menacing his 
             ex-girlfriend, Linda O'Donnell.  He was released on bond from the El Paso, 
             Colorado county jail on June 3, 2001, subject to a temporary restraining order.
              
             The restraining order is not in the record, but uncontroverted testimony indicates 
             that it forbade Patane to contact O'Donnell, in person or by phone, directly or 
             indirectly, in the 72 hours after his release on bond.
                  On June 6, an agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and 
             Firearms telephoned Detective Benner, a member of a local police drug 
             interdiction unit that worked closely with the ATF.  The agent said that a county 
             probation officer had told him that Patane was a convicted felon who also had 
             been convicted on a domestic violence charge, and that Patane possessed a Glock 
             .40 caliber pistol.  The record does not reveal how the probation officer knew that 
             Patane had the gun.  Detective Benner called O'Donnell to inquire about the gun, 
             and she told him that Patane had the pistol with him at all times.
                  Seemingly by coincidence, at the moment Benner called O'Donnell to ask 
             about the gun, Officer Fox had arrived at O'Donnell's residence, responding to a 
             call from O'Donnell about an alleged violation of the restraining order. 
             O'Donnell told Officer Fox that two days earlier, O'Donnell received a hang-up 
             call.  Using the *69 feature on her telephone, O'Donnell learned that the call 
             originated from a number that O'Donnell recognized as Patane's home telephone. 
             This call violated Patane's restraining order, O'Donnell stated, and she showed 
             Officer Fox a copy of the order.  O'Donnell said that she was afraid for her 
             safety, that she knew Patane regularly had a gun, and that Patane kept a list of
              
             people he wanted to kill.  Officer Fox confirmed by computer that a restraining 
             order had been issued.
                  Officer Fox did not confirm O'Donnell's use of the call tracing, although 
             she had done so in a prior, unrelated case and thus was aware it was possible. 
             Neither Officer Fox nor Detective Benner ran a criminal background check on 
             O'Donnell prior to Patane's arrest, which Patane asserts would have revealed that 
             O'Donnell was herself out on bond for carrying a concealed weapon, criminal 
             trespass, theft, and criminal damage.
                  Detective Benner and Officer Fox then spoke by phone.  Officer Fox said 
             she planned to arrest Patane for violating the restraining order by calling 
             O'Donnell, and the two arranged to go to Patane's house.  Officer Fox knocked 
             on the door while Detective Benner went out back in case Patane attempted to 
             flee.  The woman who answered the door summoned Patane.  Officer Fox asked 
             Patane to step outside, which he did.  She asked him about the hang-up call, and 
             Patane denied having made the call or having contacted O'Donnell in any way. 
             Officer Fox told Patane that he was under arrest and handcuffed him shortly 
             afterward.
                  With Patane arrested and handcuffed, Detective Benner emerged from the 
             back of the house and approached Patane.  Detective Benner began advising 
             Patane of his Miranda rights, but only got as far as the right to silence when
              
             Patane said that he knew his rights.  No further Miranda warnings were given, a 
             fact which the Government concedes on appeal resulted in a Miranda violation.  
             Detective Benner told Patane he was interested in what guns Patane owned. 
             Patane replied, "That .357 is already in police custody."  Detective Benner said, 
             "I am more interested in the Glock."  Patane said he was not sure he should tell 
             Detective Benner about the Glock pistol because he did not want it taken away. 
             Detective Benner said he needed to know about it, and Patane said, "The Glock is 
             in my bedroom on a shelf, on the wooden shelf."  Detective Benner asked for 
             permission to get the gun, which Patane granted, and Detective Benner went 
             inside, found the gun where Patane described, and seized it.  Detective Benner 
             then told Patane, as the detective later testified, that "I wasn't going to arrest him 
             for the gun at this time because I wanted to do some more investigations." 
             Officer Fox took Patane to the police station and booked him for violating the 
             restraining order.
                  The next day, Detective Benner met with Patane's probation officer and 
             verified that Patane had a prior felony conviction for drug possession as well as a 
             misdemeanor third degree assault conviction. 
             
     
                                    II.  PROBABLE CAUSE
                  On appeal, the Government argues that the district court erred in 
             concluding that the police lacked probable cause to arrest Patane for violating the 
             domestic violence restraining order.  We agree with the Government.
                  In reviewing the district court's probable cause determination, "we consider 
             the evidence in a light most favorable to the district court's legal determinations, 
             and review the court's findings of historical fact for clear error.  Absent any 
             finding of fact, we will uphold the court's legal determination if any reasonable 
             view of the evidence supports it.  We review the ultimate determinations of 
             reasonable suspicion to stop and probable cause to arrest de novo."  United States 
             v. Treto-Haro, 287 F.3d 1000, 1002 (10th Cir. 2002) (citations omitted).  We have 
             articulated the substantive probable cause standard as follows: 
                       An officer has probable cause to arrest if, under the totality of 
                       the circumstances, he learned of facts and circumstances 
                       through reasonably trustworthy information that would lead a 
                       reasonable person to believe that an offense has been or is 
                       being committed by the person arrested.  Probable cause does 
                       not require facts sufficient for a finding of guilt; however, it 
                       does require more than mere suspicion.
             
             United States v. Morris, 247 F.3d 1080, 1088 (10th Cir. 2001) (internal quotation 
             marks and citations omitted).
                  The district court's ruling that no probable cause existed to arrest Patane 
             for violating the domestic violence restraining order was based on its view that
              
             domestic disputes often involve "claims and counterclaims . . . thrown between 
             people who have separated some sort of an intimate relationship," and therefore 
             that uncorroborated allegations arising from such disputes are "just inadequate" to 
             establish probable cause.  Unexplored avenues of corroboration noted by the court 
             were: the failure to check telephone records to confirm O'Donnell's allegation 
             that a call had been placed from Patane's residence to hers during the time frame 
             covered by the restraining order, "verification which presumably could have been 
             done rather easily," the failure to investigate O'Donnell's credibility prior to the 
             arrest, the failure to corroborate O'Donnell's accusations apart from Detective 
             Benner's confirmation that Patane indeed possessed a gun, which "has nothing to 
             do with the crime for which he was arrested," and the failure to determine 
             whether persons other than Patane had access to Patane's telephone.  The court 
             also noted that "[i]t's just one contact which . . . could, in my life experience, 
             have been an innocent mistake" because "people do make calls to numbers with 
             which they are familiar, not intending to make the call," that Patane denied 
             having contacted O'Donnell, and that O'Donnell delayed two days in reporting 
             the call to the police.
                  We reject any suggestion that victims of domestic violence are unreliable 
             witnesses whose testimony cannot establish probable cause absent independent 
             corroboration.  We have stated, "when examining informant evidence used to
              
             support a claim of probable cause for a . . . warrantless arrest, the skepticism and 
             careful scrutiny usually found in cases involving informants, sometimes 
             anonymous, from the criminal milieu, is appropriately relaxed if the informant is 
             an identified victim or ordinary citizen witness."  Easton v. City of Boulder, 776 
             F.2d 1441, 1449 (10th Cir. 1985); see also Guzell v. Hiller, 223 F.3d 518, 519-20 
             (7th Cir. 2000) ("Police are entitled to base an arrest on a citizen complaint . . . of 
             a victim . . . without investigating the truthfulness of the complaint, unless . . . 
             they have reason to believe it's fishy."  (citations omitted)).  See generally 2 
             Wayne R. LaFave, Search and Seizure   3.4(a), at 209-11 (3d ed. 1996) (noting 
             that "[b]y far the prevailing view" is that corroboration is not essential in victim-
             witness cases, and arguing "that when an average citizen tenders information to 
             the police, the police should be permitted to assume that they are dealing with a 
             credible person in the absence of special circumstances suggesting that such may 
             not be the case").
                  We find no basis for the suggestion that domestic violence victims are 
             undeserving of the presumption of veracity accorded other victim-witnesses. 
             Indeed, our decision in Easton forecloses such a position.  In Easton, probable 
             cause to arrest for child molestation was based on the accusations of two child 
             witnesses, one five years old and the other three years old.  We rejected as "an
              
             entirely unacceptable point of view" the argument that the children's testimony 
             was suspect, stating:
                       In a great many child molestation cases, the only available 
                       evidence that a crime has been committed is the testimony of 
                       children.  To discount such testimony from the outset would 
                       only serve to discourage children and parents from reporting 
                       molestation incidents and to unjustly insulate the perpetrator of 
                       such crimes from prosecution.
                       
             Easton, 776 F.2d at 1449.(1)  A strict corroboration requirement in domestic 
             violence cases would create precisely the same proof problems we found 
             dispositive in Easton. 
                  In this case, neither the district court nor Patane point to any evidence in 
             the record suggesting that O'Donnell lied about the purported hang-up call out of 
             personal animosity against Patane arising from their failed relationship, let alone 
             that the police were aware of such evidence at the time of arrest.  For example, 
             there was no evidence that O'Donnell had threatened to lie in such a manner, or 
             that she had lied in such a manner in the past.  To the contrary, there was 
             evidence that Patane recently had been arrested for harassing and menacing 
             O'Donnell after he threatened to kill her, that O'Donnell knew that Patane carried
             
    
    
    
             (1)       We noted in Easton that the accusations of the children contained 
             "significant" discrepancies, and even noted the possibility that their testimony 
             would be inadmissible in court due to an inability to understand the oath, yet we 
             held that the children's accusations established probable cause.  776 F.2d at 1449-
             50.
              
             a gun and kept a list of persons (including police officers) he wanted to kill, and 
             that O'Donnell feared that Patane would kill her.  Admittedly, O'Donnell waited 
             two days before reporting the hang-up call, a fact that could cast some doubt on 
             the veracity of her report.  However, we do not believe that fact alone was 
             sufficient to require the officers to treat her complaint with special skepticism. 
                  In any event, we note that the officers here did corroborate O'Donnell's 
             veracity in two respects.  First, the district court found as fact that, prior to the 
             arrest, Detective Benner had learned from a probation officer that Patane 
             possessed a gun.  Second, Officer Fox verified that a restraining order had been 
             issued against Patane.  The mere fact that further corroboration was possible is 
             not dispositive of whether the information available would lead a reasonable 
             person to believe that an offense had been committed.
                  At oral argument, Patane argued that, as a matter of law, a single hang-up 
             phone call could not constitute a violation of the restraining order.  We disagree. 
             As noted above, the evidence showed that the restraining order forbade Patane to 
             contact O'Donnell, directly or indirectly, in person or by telephone, and counsel 
             for Patane conceded that multiple hang-up phone calls would amount to a 
             violation of the restraining order.  We find no basis to conclude that a single call 
             is not "contact" with the victim, or that a single call does not implicate the same 
             concerns about intimidation and harassment that multiple calls would.  Cf. 42
              
             U.S.C.   376hh(a), (b)(1) ("encourag[ing] States . . . to treat domestic violence as 
             a serious violation of criminal law" by authorizing Attorney General to make 
             grants to implement "mandatory arrest or proarrest programs and . . . policies for 
             protection order violations").  We acknowledge that it is conceivable that a single 
             hang-up call might result from careless rather than willful behavior.  However, 
             probable cause does not require certainty of guilt or even a preponderance of 
             evidence of guilt, but rather only reasonably trustworthy information that would 
             lead a reasonable person to believe an offense was committed.  Morris, 247 F.3d 
             at 1088.  The possibility that the hang-up call here was accidental does not defeat 
             probable cause.
                  Accordingly, we conclude that Patane's arrest was supported by probable 
             cause to believe that Patane had violated the domestic violence restraining order.(2)
                    III.  SUPPRESSION OF THE PHYSICAL FRUITS OF A MIRANDA 
                                         VIOLATION
             
                  Our conclusion that the district court erroneously based suppression of the 
             gun on the absence of probable cause to arrest does not end our inquiry.  Patane 
             argues that suppression of the gun should be affirmed because, even if the arrest 
             was proper, the ensuing Miranda violation independently requires suppression of 
             the physical evidence.
                  The district held, and the Government concedes on appeal, that a Miranda 
             violation occurred when the police questioned Patane about his possession of a 
             gun without administering the complete Miranda warnings.  As explained above, 
             this questioning led Patane to admit that he possessed a gun in his bedroom, 
             which admission in turn led immediately to seizure of the gun.  The Government 
             correctly concedes that Patane's admissions in response to questioning were 
             inadmissible under Miranda, but argues that the physical fruit of the Miranda 
             violation  the gun   is admissible.
                  The district court determined that it was unnecessary to decide whether the 
             physical fruits of a Miranda violation must be suppressed because it had 
             concluded that the underlying arrest that led to the confession was
             (2)       In light of our conclusion that the officers had probable cause to arrest 
             for violation of the restraining order, it is unnecessary to reach the Government's 
             alternative argument that the arrest was justified by probable cause to believe that 
             Patane was a felon in possession of a gun.  The district court declined to decide 
             whether the officers had probable cause to arrest on the basis of Patane's gun 
             violation.   ("[T]o allow the arresting officers after the fact to go back and 
             scramble . . . for evidence that might justify an arrest on another charge . . . 
             would not be a good rule to establish . . . .").)  On appeal, the Government argued 
             that this reasoning is foreclosed by United States v. Santana-Garcia, 264 F.3d 
             1188, 1192-93 (10th Cir. 2001) (officer's subjective belief as to non-existence of 
             probable cause not dispositive); see also Treto-Haro, 287 F.3d at 1006 (same).  
             Patane correctly conceded that the district court's reasoning was erroneous in 
             light of our precedent, and on appeal he argued only that the officers lacked 
             probable cause to believe that he was a felon in possession of a gun.  The district 
    	 court did not reach this issue, and we decline to do so in the first instance on 
             appeal.
              
             unconstitutional.  Because we have reversed the conclusion that the arrest was 
             unconstitutional, we are now squarely presented with the issue whether the gun 
             should be suppressed in any event because it was obtained as the fruits of an 
             unconstitutionally obtained confession.  This issue was fully briefed and 
             presented below and it is again fully briefed on appeal.  Resolution of this issue 
             involves our answering a purely legal question (i.e., whether the physical fruits of 
             a Miranda violation must be suppressed), a question that potentially would render 
             remand and further proceedings unnecessary.  Thus, we now turn to that issue. 
             Smith v. Plati, 258 F.3d 1167, 1174 (10th Cir. 2001).  Below, we conclude that 
             the physical evidence that was the fruit of the Miranda violation in this case must 
             be suppressed.
             
                  A.  Supreme Court precedent
                  The Government relies primarily on two Supreme Court cases for its 
             argument that the fruits doctrine does not apply to Miranda violations: Michigan 
             v. Tucker, 417 U.S. 433, 445-46 (1974), and Oregon v. Elstad, 470 U.S. 298, 306 
             (1985).  Both cases, it is true, declined to apply the fruits of the poisonous tree 
             doctrine of Wong Sun v. United States, 371 U.S. 471, 485 (1963), to suppress 
             evidence obtained from an un-Mirandized confession.  However, both cases were 
             predicated upon the premise that the Miranda rule was a prophylactic rule, rather
              
             than a constitutional rule.  Elstad, 470 U.S. at 305 ("`The prophylactic Miranda 
             warnings are not themselves rights protected by the Constitution . . . .'" (quoting 
             New York v. Quarles, 467 U.S. 649, 654 (1984)) (internal quotation marks 
             omitted)); id. at 308 ("Since there was no actual infringement of the suspect's 
             constitutional rights, [Tucker] was not controlled by the doctrine expressed in 
             Wong Sun that fruits of a constitutional violation must be suppressed." (emphasis 
             added)); Tucker, 417 U.S. at 445-46 (distinguishing Wong Sun because "the 
             police conduct at issue here did not abridge respondent's constitutional privilege 
             against compulsory self-incrimination, but departed only from the prophylactic 
             standards later laid down by this Court in Miranda to safeguard that privilege"). 
             Because Wong Sun requires suppression only of the fruits of unconstitutional 
             conduct, the violation of a prophylactic rule did not require the same remedy.
                  However, the premise upon which Tucker and Elstad relied was 
             fundamentally altered in Dickerson v. United States, 530 U.S. 428 (2000).  In 
             Dickerson, the Supreme Court declared that Miranda articulated a constitutional 
             rule rather than merely a prophylactic one.  Id. at 444 ("Miranda announced a 
             constitutional rule that Congress may not supersede legislatively."); see id. at 432, 
             438, 440.  Thus, Dickerson undermined the logic underlying Tucker and Elstad.
     
                  Additionally, a close reading of Tucker and Elstad reveals other 
             distinctions that lead us to conclude that those cases should not be given the 
             sweeping reading the Government is asserting.  We examine each decision below.
                  Tucker involved an un-Mirandized custodial interrogation that occurred 
             prior to the issuance of the Miranda decision.(3)  During the course of the 
             interrogation, the defendant identified a relevant witness of whom the police 
             previously had been ignorant.  The defendant argued before the Court that the 
             testimony of the witness so identified by the defendant should have been barred as 
             the fruit of the Miranda violation. The Court's rejection of this argument rested 
             largely on its conclusion that excluding the fruits of this confession would have 
             minimal prophylactic effect because the officers were acting in complete good 
             faith under prevailing pre-Miranda law that barred only coerced confessions. 
             After noting in the opening paragraph of the opinion that the interrogation took 
             place prior to Miranda, Tucker, 417 U.S. at 435, the Court explained:
                       The deterrent purpose of the exclusionary rule necessarily 
                       assumes that the police have engaged in willful, or at the very 
                       least negligent, conduct which has deprived the defendant of 
                       some right. . . .  Where the official action was pursued in 
                       complete good faith, however, the deterrence rationale loses 
                       much of its force.
    
    
    
    
    
                       (3)       Miranda nonetheless applied because it was issued prior to Tucker's trial. 
             In fact, the defendant received all the warnings later incorporated into the 
             Miranda requirements except for the advice that he could receive free counsel if 
             he was indigent.
              
                            We consider it significant to our decision in this case 
                       that the officers' failure to advise respondent of his right to 
                       appointed counsel occurred prior to the decision in Miranda. 
                       Although we have been urged to resolve the broad question of 
                       whether evidence derived from statements taken in violation of 
                       the Miranda rules must be excluded regardless of when the 
                       interrogation took place, we instead place our holding on a 
                       narrower ground.  For at the time respondent was questioned 
                       these police officers were guided, quite rightly, by the 
                       principles established in Escobedo v. Illinois . . . .
                       
             Id. at 447 (emphasis added, footnote omitted).  The Court then noted that no 
             coercion rendered the challenged testimony unreliable.  Id. at 449. 
                  The other Supreme Court case offered by the Government to support its 
             argument is Elstad, 470 U.S. at 306.  In Elstad, the defendant made incriminating 
             statements while in custodial interrogation prior to the issuance of Miranda 
             warnings.  The police then administered Miranda warnings, and thereafter the 
             defendant made further incriminating statements.  The issue in Elstad was 
             whether the defendants post-Mirandized statements must be suppressed as the 
             fruit of the earlier Miranda violation.  Id. at 303.  The Supreme Court held that 
             suppression was not required, rejecting the view that the post-warning statements 
             were the unconstitutional product of "a subtle form of lingering compulsion, the 
             psychological impact of the suspect's conviction that he has let the cat out of the 
             bag."  Id. at 311.  After repeating the now-suspect reasoning that a Miranda 
             violation was not necessarily a constitutional violation and thus not controlled by 
             the fruits doctrine of Wong Sun, the Court stated:
     
                       [T]he Miranda presumption, though irrebuttable for purposes 
                       of the prosecution's case in chief, does not require that the 
                       statements and their fruits be discarded as inherently tainted. 
                       . . . .
                            . . . .  In deciding how sweeping the judicially imposed 
                       consequences of a failure to administer Miranda warnings 
                       should be, the Tucker Court noted that neither the general goal 
                       of deterring improper police conduct nor the Fifth Amendment 
                       goal of assuring trustworthy evidence would be served by 
                       suppression of the witness' testimony.  The unwarned 
                       confession must, of course, be suppressed, but the Court ruled 
                       that introduction of the third-party witness' testimony did not 
                       violate Tucker's Fifth Amendment rights.
                            We believe that this reasoning applies with equal force 
                       when the alleged "fruit" of a noncoercive Miranda violation is 
                       neither a witness nor an article of evidence but the accused's 
                       own voluntary testimony.  As in Tucker, the absence of any 
                       coercion or improper tactics undercuts the twin 
                       rationalestrustworthiness and deterrence for a broader rule. 
                       Once warned, the suspect is free to exercise his own volition in 
                       deciding whether or not to make a statement to the authorities. 
                       The Court has often noted: A living witness is not to be 
                       mechanically equated with the proffer of inanimate evidentiary 
                       objects illegally seized.  The living witness is an individual 
                       human personality whose attributes of will, perception, 
                       memory and volition interact to determine what testimony he 
                       will give.
                       
             Id. at 307-09 (first emphasis added, alterations and internal quotation marks 
             omitted).  Elstad thus drew a distinction between fruits consisting of a subsequent 
             confession by the defendant after having been fully Mirandized and fruits 
             consisting of subsequently obtained "inanimate evidentiary objects."  Id. at 309. 
             A subsequent, Mirandized confession need not be excluded because it is the 
             product of "volition," willingly offered up by a defendant who already had been
              
             made aware of his Miranda rights.  Id.  By implication, "inanimate evidentiary 
             objects" would be excludable, because physical evidence derived from the 
             defendant's un-Mirandized statement is not the product of volition after a 
             defendant has been Mirandized properly.(4)  See id. at 347 n.29 (Brennan, J., 
             dissenting) ("[T]oday's opinion surely ought not be read as also foreclosing 
             application of the traditional derivative-evidence presumption to physical 
             evidence obtained as a proximate result of a Miranda violation.  The Court relies 
    	 heavily on individual `volition' as an insulating factor in successive-confession 
             cases. . . . [This] factor is altogether missing in the context of inanimate 
             evidence." (citation omitted)).(5)
                  While the reasoning regarding volition in Elstad's holding indicates that the 
             physical fruits of a Miranda violation are subject to the Wong Sun fruits doctrine, 
             we acknowledge that dicta elsewhere in the opinion has been cited for the 
             contrary conclusion.  See Elstad, 470 U.S. at 307 ("[T]he Miranda presumption, 
             though irrebuttable for purposes of the prosecution's case in chief, does not 
             require that the statements and their fruits be discarded as inherently tainted."); 
             id. at 308 (stating that Tucker's reasoning "applies with equal force when the 
             alleged `fruit' of a noncoercive Miranda violation is neither a witness nor an 
             article of evidence but the accused's own voluntary testimony").(6)  These passages,
             
    
    
    
             (4)       See also Orozco v. Texas, 394 U.S. 324 (1969).  In Orozco, the officers 
             interrogated a suspect in custody without giving Miranda warnings, learning that 
             the suspect owned a gun and where it was located.  Id. at 325.  Ballistics tests of 
             the gun indicated that it had been used to commit a murder.  Id.  In a terse 
             holding, the Court held that "the use of these admissions obtained in the absence 
             of the required warnings was a flat violation of the Self-Incrimination Clause of 
             the Fifth Amendment as construed in Miranda."  Id. at 326 (emphasis added). 
             The Court did not expressly consider whether the gun and the ballistics evidence 
             would be admissible on remand.  However, one plausible reading of Orozco is 
             that the reference to the unconstitutional "use" of the statements includes their 
             use by police officers in obtaining the gun, as well as their introduction of the 
             admission at trial.
             
                  This reading of Orozco is reinforced by the Court's subsequent opinion in 
             Kastigar v. United States, 406 U.S. 441 (1972).  Kastigar noted that the privilege 
             against self-incrimination "protects against any disclosures which the witness 
             reasonably believes could be used in a criminal prosecution or could lead to other 
             evidence that might be so used," id. at 445, and that "immunity from use and 
             derivative use is coextensive with the scope of the privilege,"  id. at 453.
             
                  Indeed, in Miranda itself the Court stated that "unless and until such 
             warnings and waiver are demonstrated by the prosecution at trial, no evidence 
             obtained as a result of interrogation can be used against him."  384 U.S. 436, 454 
             (1966) (emphasis added).
             (5)       There is a substantial argument that Elstad ought not even be treated as a 
             case involving application of the Wong Sun fruits doctrine in the first place, for 
             precisely the reasons emphasized by Elstad in its volition discussion.  In rejecting 
             the argument that the second confession was the result of some "subtle form of 
             lingering compulsion," id. at 311, Elstad in effect concluded that the second 
             confession was not evidence "obtained . . . as a direct result" of the Miranda 
             violation.  Wong Sun, 371 U.S. at 485.  In other words, the post-Mirandized 
             confession in Elstad was admitted because it was not (rather than despite the fact 
             that it was) the fruit of the poisonous tree.
             (6)       We also recognize that Justice O'Connor argued that the physical fruits 
             of a Miranda violation were not subject to Wong Sun suppression in her pre-
             Elstad concurrence in New York v. Quarles, 467 U.S. 649, 665-72 (1984) 
             (O'Connor, J., concurring in the judgment in part and dissenting in part).  As 
             explained above, this argument was not adopted by the Court in Elstad or in any 
    	 subsequent opinion of the Court.  Justice O'Connor joined the majority opinion in 
             Dickerson.
              
             in contrast to the volition discussion, provide only ambiguous support for the 
             position for which they are cited.  To the extent they do address the admissibility 
             of the physical fruits of a Miranda violation rather than a subsequent Mirandized 
             confession, they are dicta not part of the reasoning of the holding.
                  In any event, we do not suggest that the holding in Elstad relying on 
             volition definitively establishes that the physical fruits of a Miranda violation 
             must be suppressed.  Rather, the essential point for our analysis is only that Elstad 
             does not definitively establish the contrary rule.  We think Justice White most 
             accurately summarized the relevance of Elstad and Tucker to the issue of 
             suppression of the physical fruits of a Miranda violation:
                       In Michigan v. Tucker, this Court expressly left open the 
                       question of the admissibility of physical evidence obtained as a 
                       result of an interrogation conducted contrary to the rules set 
                       forth in Miranda v. Arizona.  Since that time, the state and 
                       federal courts have been divided on this question.  Indeed, in 
                       Massachusetts v. White, 439 U.S. 280 (1978), this Court was 
                       evenly divided on the issue of the admissibility of physical 
                       evidence obtained from an interrogation that violated Miranda.
                            . . . .
                            While Elstad has been considered illuminating by some 
                       Courts of Appeals on the question of admissibility of physical 
                       evidence yielded from a Miranda violation, that decision did 
                       not squarely address the question presented here, and in fact, 
                       left the matter open.
                       
     
             Patterson v. United States, 485 U.S. 922, 922-23 (1988) (White, J., dissenting 
             from denial of certiorari) (footnotes and citations omitted).
                  It is true that, prior to Dickerson, the Tenth Circuit applied Tucker and 
             Elstad to the physical fruits of a Miranda violation and concluded that 
             suppression was not required because "[w]here the uncounseled statement is 
             voluntary . . . there is no fifth amendment violation and the fruits may be 
             admissible."  United States v. McCurdy, 40 F.3d 1111, 1117 (10th Cir. 1994) 
             (internal quotations omitted).  However, once again Dickerson has undercut the 
             premise upon which that application of Elstad and Tucker  was based because 
             Dickerson now concludes that an un-Mirandized statement, even if voluntary, is a 
             Fifth Amendment violation.  Dickerson, 530 U.S. at 444.
                  Accordingly, we reject the Government's position that Tucker and Elstad 
             foreclose suppression of the physical fruits of a Miranda violation.
             
                  B.  Lower court approaches 
                  Courts applying Dickerson have split on the proper application of Wong 
             Sun to the physical fruits of a Miranda violation.  The Third and Fourth Circuits 
             have ruled that the physical fruits of a Miranda violation never are subject to 
             Wong Sun suppression.   United States v. Sterling, 283 F.3d 216, 218-19 (4th Cir. 
             2002), cert. denied, 122 S. Ct. 2606 (2002); United States v. DeSumma, 272 F.3d
              
             176, 180-81 (3d Cir. 2001), cert. denied, 122 S. Ct. 1631 (2002); accord United 
             States v. Newton, 181 F. Supp. 2d 157, 179-81 & n.16 (E.D.N.Y. 2002); Taylor v. 
             State, 553 S.E.2d 598, 605 (Ga. 2001); State v. Walton, 41 S.W.3d 75, 88-90 
             (Tenn. 2001); cf. Abraham v. Kansas, 211 F. Supp. 2d 1308, 1323 (D. Kan. July 
             2002) (holding that "[a]lthough the Court's holding in Dickerson seems to have 
             altered this general rule [that fruits of a Miranda violation need not be 
             suppressed]," the state court's failure to suppress physical fruits was not an 
             "unreasonable application of federal law" under 28 U.S.C.   2254(d)(1)); Worden 
             v. McLemore, 200 F. Supp. 2d 746, 752-53 (E.D. Mich. 2002) (holding that state 
             court's failure to suppress physical fruits of Miranda violation was not an 
             unreasonable application of clearly established federal law because of 
             "disagreement and confusion" among courts regarding application of Dickerson). 
             The First Circuit, by contrast, has ruled that the physical fruits of a Miranda 
             violation must be suppressed in certain circumstances, depending on the need for 
             deterrence of police misconduct in light of the circumstances of each case. 
             United States v. Faulkingham, 295 F.3d 85, 90-94 (1st Cir. 2002).  Below, we 
             analyze the merits of each of these approaches.  We conclude that the First Circuit 
             is correct that the physical fruits of a Miranda violation must be suppressed where 
             necessary to serve Miranda's deterrent purpose.  However, we part company with 
             the First Circuit in the application of that standard, because we conclude that
              
             Miranda's deterrent purpose requires suppression of the physical fruits of a 
             negligent Miranda violation. We therefore conclude that suppression of the gun in 
             the present case was appropriate.
                  1.  Sterling & DeSumma
                  The Third and Fourth Circuits have concluded that the fruits doctrine 
             simply does not apply to Miranda violations even after Dickerson.  United States 
             v. Sterling, 283 F.3d 216, 218-19 (4th Cir. 2002), cert. denied, 122 S. Ct. 2606 
             (2002); United States v. DeSumma, 272 F.3d 176, 180-81 (3d Cir. 2001), cert. 
             denied, 122 S. Ct. 1631 (2002).  Both of these cases held that the physical fruits 
             of a Miranda violation were admissible.  Sterling, 283 F.3d at 219 (shotgun found 
             in vehicle as a result of Miranda violation); DeSumma, 272 F.3d at 180-81 (gun 
             found in vehicle as a direct result of Miranda violation).  Both Sterling and 
             DeSumma relied on substantially the same reasoning, focusing primarily on an 
             isolated passage in Dickerson.  Dickerson noted at the outset of the opinion that 
             "Miranda and its progeny in this Court govern the admissibility of statements 
             made during custodial interrogation in both state and federal courts."  530 U.S. at 
             432.  Later in the opinion, in the course of rejecting various arguments supporting 
             the erroneous view that Miranda was not a constitutional decision, the Court 
             stated:
                       The Court of Appeals also noted that in Oregon v. Elstad we 
                       stated that "[t]he Miranda exclusionary rule . . . serves the
                        
                       Fifth Amendment and sweeps more broadly than the Fifth 
                       Amendment itself."  Our decision in that case  refusing to 
                       apply the traditional "fruits" doctrine developed in Fourth 
                       Amendment cases   does not prove that Miranda is a 
                       nonconstitutional decision, but simply recognizes the fact that 
                       unreasonable searches under the Fourth Amendment are 
                       different from unwarned interrogation under the Fifth 
                       Amendment.
                       
             Dickerson, 530 U.S. at 441 (emphasis added, citations and internal quotations 
             omitted).
                  Both Sterling and DeSumma viewed this language as amounting to an 
             endorsement of the rule that the Wong Sun exclusionary rule does not apply to the 
             physical fruits of a Miranda violation.  Sterling, 283 F.3d at 219; DeSumma, 272 
             F.3d at 180.  Sterling explained:
                            Although Dickerson held Miranda to be with 
                       Constitutional significance, Miranda only held that certain 
                       warnings must be given before a suspect's statements made 
                       during custodial interrogation can be admitted into evidence. 
                       In addition, we are of opinion that the Court's reference to and 
                       reaffirmation of Miranda's progeny indicates that the 
                       established exceptions, like those in Tucker and Elstad, 
                       survive.  Thus, the distinction between statements and 
                       derivative evidence survives Dickerson.  In fact, Dickerson 
                       reiterated the distinction made in Elstad by stating that: "Our 
                       decision in that case  refusing to apply the traditional `fruits' 
                       doctrine developed in Fourth Amendment cases   does not 
                       prove that Miranda is a nonconstitutional decision, but simply 
                       recognizes the fact that unreasonable searches under the Fourth 
                       Amendment are different from unwarned interrogation under 
                       the Fifth Amendment."
                            
             283 F.3d at 219 (emphasis in original, citation omitted).
     
                  There are at least two serious problems with the reasoning in DeSumma and 
             Sterling.  First, we respectfully disagree with their conclusion that Dickerson's 
             reference to the controlling force of "Miranda and its progeny in this Court" 
             forecloses the argument that the physical fruits of a Miranda violation may be 
             suppressed.  Although we agree that, based on this language, the holdings of 
             Elstad and Tucker survive Dickerson, neither Elstad nor Tucker involved the 
             physical fruits of a Miranda violation; as explained above, Elstad expressly 
             contrasted the subsequent confession it found admissible from physical fruits, 
             while Tucker expressly limited its holding to pre-Miranda interrogations.  See 
             Patterson, 485 U.S. at 922-24 (White, J., dissenting from denial of certiorari).  By 
             wholly undermining the doctrinal foundation upon which those holdings were 
             built, Dickerson effectively left Elstad and Tucker standing but prevented lower 
             courts from extending their holdings.  Of course, prior to Dickerson many lower 
             courts (including this one) already had expanded the holdings of Elstad and 
             Tucker by concluding that Miranda violations do not require suppression of 
             physical fruits, but Dickerson explicitly limited its saving language to Miranda's 
             "progeny in this Court."  530 U.S. at 432 (emphasis added).  Far from endorsing 
             pre-Dickerson lower court case law, then, Dickerson instead signaled the contrary 
             view.
     
                  The second fundamental problem with the reasoning in DeSumma and 
             Sterling is that the language that they rely on for the proposition that Dickerson 
             endorsed the extension of Elstad to physical fruits in fact said only that Elstad 
             "recognizes . . . that unreasonable searches under the Fourth Amendment are 
             different from unwarned interrogation under the Fifth Amendment."  Dickerson, 
             530 U.S. at 441 (emphasis added).  The critical question, of course, is how the 
             two are different.  At oral argument in the present case, the Government argued 
             only that the way that Fourth Amendment violations differ from Fifth Amendment 
             violations is that the Wong Sun fruits doctrine applies to the former and not the 
             latter.  This argument already has been rejected by the Supreme Court.  Nix v. 
             Williams, 467 U.S. 431, 442 & n.3 (1984) (noting that the Court has applied the 
             fruits doctrine to violations of the Fifth Amendment, citing Murphy v. Waterfront 
             Comm'n, 378 U.S. 52, 79 (1964)); Kastigar v. United States, 406 U.S. 441, 460-
             61 (1972).  Although Dickerson itself does not explain how searches under the 
             Fourth Amendment are "different," Elstad does just that:  "a procedural Miranda 
             violation differs in significant respects from violations of the Fourth Amendment, 
             which have traditionally mandated a broad application of the `fruits' doctrine." 
             470 U.S. at 306 (emphasis added).(7)  This language indicates that Miranda
             
    
    
    
             (7)       Elstad also stated that a second way that Fourth Amendment violations 
             are different from Miranda violations is that only the former are constitutional 
    	 violations.  470 U.S. at 305-07.  This difference, of course, is one that Dickerson 
             itself rejects.
              
             violations are "different" because a narrowed application of the fruits doctrine 
             applies to Miranda violations, not because the fruits doctrine does not apply at all. 
             Cf. id. at 306 (referring to "[t]he Miranda exclusionary rule").
                  Of course, Elstad's explanation of how application of the fruits doctrine is 
             "different" in Miranda cases begs the question of what a "broad" application 
             means.  We conclude that the broad application of the fruits doctrine is that 
             defined in Nix: "the prosecution is not to be put in a better position than it would 
             have been in if no illegality had transpired."  467 U.S. at 443.  Application of the 
             fruits doctrine in the Miranda context is not "broad" because a number of 
             exceptions to this pure rule have been recognized, circumstances where the 
             prosecution is permitted to benefit from the Miranda violation.  See Elstad, 470 
             U.S. at 314; Tucker, 417 U.S. at 447-48; New York v. Quarles, 467 U.S. 649, 657 
             (1984) (unwarned answers "to questions in a situation posing a threat to the 
             public safety" may be used); Harris v. New York, 401 U.S. 222, 225-26 & n.2 
             (1971) (unwarned statements may be used for impeachment on cross-
             examination).
                  One could argue that further narrowing of the pure fruits doctrine in the 
             Miranda context  narrowing beyond that already effectuated by the holdings of
              
             Elstad and Tucker(8)   also is appropriate.  However, we are unpersuaded that the 
             additional narrowing articulated in DeSumma and Sterling (refusing to apply the 
             fruits exclusion to physical evidence obtained as a result of the illegally obtained 
             confession) reflects a correct understanding of the way in which Miranda 
             violations are, in Dickerson's words, "different" from Fourth Amendment 
             violations.
                  A blanket rule barring application of the fruits doctrine to the physical 
             fruits of a Miranda violation would mark a dramatic departure from Supreme 
             Court precedent.  The Court consistently has recognized that deterrence of police 
             misconduct, whether deliberate or negligent, is the fundamental justification for 
             the fruits doctrine.  Nix, 467 U.S. at 442-43 ("The core rationale consistently 
             advanced by this Court for extending the exclusionary rule to evidence that is the 
             fruit of unlawful police conduct has been that this admittedly drastic and socially 
             costly course is needed to deter police from violations of constitutional and 
             statutory protections."); see also Elstad, 470 U.S. at 308 (identifying 
             trustworthiness and deterrence as the two rationales for a broad fruits suppression 
             rule); Tucker, 417 U.S. at 447 (noting "the deterrent purpose of the exclusionary
             
    
    
    
             (8)       Tucker's narrowing would seem no longer applicable because it appeared 
             to establish an exception only for questioning that pre-dated Miranda itself. 
             Elstad's narrowing would still have applicability today because it declined to 
             apply the fruits exclusion to a subsequent voluntary confession rendered after the 
             Miranda warnings are given.
              
             rule").  The Court also has been consistent in narrowing the scope of the fruits 
             doctrine in the Miranda context only where deterrence is not meaningfully 
             implicated.  See Elstad, 470 U.S. at 308-09 (stating that admission of voluntary 
             post-warning statements will not undercut deterrence because the suspect remains 
             "free to exercise his own volition in deciding whether or not to make a [post-
             warning] statement to the authorities"); Tucker, 417 U.S. at 447-48 (explaining 
             that the "deterrence rationale loses much of its force" in that case because the 
             unwarned interrogation occurred prior to Miranda's issuance).
                  In sharp contrast with Elstad and Tucker, however, the rule argued for by 
             the Government here risks the evisceration of the deterrence provided by the 
             fruits doctrine, as this case well illustrates.  As a practical matter, the inability to 
             offer Patane's statements in this case affords no deterrence, because the ability to 
             offer the physical evidence (the gun) renders the statements superfluous to 
             conviction.  See generally United States v. Kruger, 151 F. Supp. 2d 86, 101-02 
             (D. Me. 2001) ("The exclusion of the cocaine, the substance  indeed essence   of 
             the suppressed statements, is necessary to deter law enforcement officers from 
             foregoing the administration of Miranda warnings . . . ."), overruled by 
             Faulkingham, 295 F.3d at 92-94; Yale Kamisar, On the "Fruits" of Miranda 
             Violations, Coerced Confessions, and Compelled Testimony, 93 Mich. L. Rev. 
             929, 933 (1995) ("Unless the courts bar the use of the often-valuable evidence
              
             derived from an inadmissible confession, as well as the confession itself, there 
             will remain a strong incentive to resort to forbidden interrogation methods."); 
             David A. Wollin, Policing the Police: Should Miranda Violations Bear Fruit?, 53 
             Ohio St. L.J. 805, 843-48 (1992) ("Police officers seeking physical evidence are 
             not likely to view the loss of an unwarned confession as particularly great when 
             weighed against the opportunity to recover highly probative nontestimonial 
             evidence, such as a murder weapon or narcotics.").  The present case is hardly 
             anomalous in this respect, as demonstrated by the multitude of reported cases 
             where the record demonstrated that the interrogating authorities intentionally (and 
             in some cases pursuant to official policy and training) violated a suspect's 
             Miranda rights in order to procure derivative evidence.  E.g., United States v. 
             Orso, 234 F.3d 436, 441 (9th Cir. 2000), aff'd in part, rev'd in part, 266 F.3d 
             1030 (9th Cir. 2001) (en banc); Henry v. Kernan, 197 F.3d 1021, 1026, 1028 (9th 
             Cir. 1999); Pope v. Zenon, 69 F.3d 1018, 1023-24 (9th Cir. 1996), overruled by 
             Orso, 266 F.3d 1030; Cooper v. Dupnik, 963 F.2d 1220, 1224-27 (9th Cir. 1992); 
             United States v. Carter, 884 F.2d 368, 373 (8th Cir. 1989); United States v. 
             Esquilin, 42 F. Supp. 2d 20, 33 (D. Me. 1999), aff'd, 208 F.3d 315 (1st Cir. 
             2000).
                  Further, the rule urged upon us by the Government appears to make little 
             sense as a matter of policy.  From a practical perspective, we see little difference
              
             between the confessional statement "The Glock is in my bedroom on a shelf," 
             which even the Government concedes is clearly excluded under Miranda and 
             Wong Sun, and the Government's introduction of the Glock found in the 
             defendant's bedroom on the shelf as a result of his unconstitutionally obtained 
             confession.  If anything, to adopt the Government's rule would allow it to make 
             greater use of the confession than merely introducing the words themselves.
                  Accordingly, we decline to adopt the position of the Third and Fourth 
             Circuits that the Wong Sun fruits doctrine never applies to Miranda violations.
             
                  2.  Faulkingham
                  With its recent decision in United States v. Faulkingham, 295 F.3d 85 (1st 
             Cir. 2002), the First Circuit rejected the Third and Fourth Circuits' blanket refusal 
             to apply Wong Sun suppression to the fruits of a Miranda violation.  Id. at 90-91. 
             Faulkingham acknowledged, contrary to Sterling and DeSumma, that Dickerson's 
             recognition that Miranda violations are constitutional violations strengthened the 
             argument that their physical fruits must be suppressed.  Id. at 92-93.  However, 
             Faulkingham concluded that suppression of the fruits of a Miranda violation was 
             not required in every case.  Rather, it adopted a rule mandating suppression of the 
             fruits of a Miranda violation in individual cases where "a strong need for 
             deterrence" outweighs the reliability of that evidence.  Id. at 93.  Because the
              
             physical fruits of a Miranda violation generally will be trustworthy evidence, it 
             appears that in most cases the First Circuit's analysis boils down to a rule 
             excluding the fruits of a Miranda violation only when there is a "strong need for 
             deterrence."  On each of Faulkingham's two basic points  that Dickerson alters 
             the analysis regarding suppression of the fruits of a Miranda violation, and that 
             suppression of the physical fruits is required where necessary to effectuate 
             Miranda's deterrent purpose   we agree with the First Circuit.  For reasons 
             already stated above, we conclude that each of these propositions is compelled by 
             Supreme Court precedent.
                  Turning to the application of this standard to circumstances  present both 
             in Faulkingham and in the present case   where an officer negligently rather than 
             intentionally violates a defendant's Miranda rights, however, we disagree with the 
             First Circuit.  In Faulkingham, the court concluded that, where the Miranda 
             violation resulted from mere negligence on the part of the interrogating officer, 
             there is no strong need for deterrence and thus the physical fruits of the Miranda 
             violation need not be excluded.  We conclude that Faulkingham's cramped view 
             of deterrence leads it to an erroneous conclusion regarding negligent Miranda 
             violations.
                  Faulkingham asserted, without elaboration, that "[o]nce the un-Mirandized 
             inculpatory statements of the defendant are themselves suppressed, the role of
              
             deterrence under the Fifth Amendment becomes less primary."  Id. at 92.  The 
             heart of the court's analysis is the following:
                       Where, as here, negligence is the reason that the police failed 
                       to give a Miranda warning, the role of deterrence is weaker 
                       than in a case . . . where the apparent reason the police failed 
                       to give a warning was their intention to manipulate the 
                       defendant into giving them information.
                            Faulkingham's claim, taking all the surrounding 
                       circumstances into account, simply does not tip the balance 
                       toward a strong need for deterrence.  Faulkingham's statement 
                       was not the result of "coercive official tactics."  There was no 
                       deliberate misconduct by the [police] agents here.  There was 
                       no misleading or manipulation by the government . . . .  The 
                       findings of the magistrate judge and the trial judge give us no 
                       reason to think that the agents deliberately failed to give the 
                       warning in order to get to the physical evidence or that they 
                       did so to get to another witness who might or might not 
                       incriminate Faulkingham.  The agents' negligence resulted in 
                       the suppression of Faulkingham's confession, itself a detriment 
                       to the agents . . . .
                       
             Id. at 93-94 (citation to opinion below omitted).  The court noted that 
             "Faulkingham himself started talking without much questioning" and observed 
             that "there is nothing to shock the conscience of the court and no fundamental 
             unfairness."  Id. at 94.  In light of the totality of the circumstances, the court held 
             "that Faulkingham's far weaker argument for recognition of a deterrence interest 
             for suppression of derivative evidence arising from a negligent violation of his 
             Miranda rights is insufficient to carry the day."  Id.
                   We do not believe that "the role of deterrence . . . becomes less primary" 
             once the statement itself has been suppressed.  Id. at 92.  Instead, the relevant
              
             question remains whether suppression of the statement alone provides deterrence 
             sufficient to protect citizens' constitutional privilege against self-incrimination. 
             As we already have stated above, see supra at 29-31, we answer this question in 
             the negative.
                  Nor do we share Faulkingham's view that there is a strong need for 
             deterrence only where the officer's actions were deliberate rather than negligent. 
             Finally, Miranda itself made clear that the privilege against self-incrimination was 
             animated, not by a desire merely to deter intentional misconduct by police, but by 
             the "one overriding thought" that "the constitutional foundation underlying the 
             privilege is the respect a government . . . must accord to the dignity and integrity 
             of its citizens."  Miranda, 384 U.S. at 460; see also id. ("[T]he privilege has come 
             rightfully to be recognized in part as an individual's substantive right . . . to a 
             private enclave where he may lead a private life." (internal quotation marks 
             omitted)).  The personal right to be free of government invasions of the privilege 
             against self-incrimination is violated just as surely by a negligent failure to 
             administer Miranda warnings as a deliberate failure.  Deterrence is necessary not 
             merely to deter intentional wrongdoing, but also to ensure that officers diligently 
             (non-negligently) protect  and properly are trained to protect   the constitutional 
             rights of citizens.  The call for deterrence may be somewhat less urgent where
              
             negligence rather than intentional wrongdoing is at issue, but in either case we 
             conclude that the need is a strong one. 
                  Moreover, we conclude that a rule limiting Wong Sun suppression of the 
             physical fruits of a Miranda violation to situations where the police demonstrably 
             acted in intentional bad faith would fail to vindicate the exclusionary rule's 
             deterrent purpose.  Even in cases where the failure to administer Miranda 
             warnings was calculated, obtaining evidence of such deliberate violations of 
             Miranda often would be difficult or impossible.  Cf. Whren v. United States, 517 
             U.S. 806, 814 (1996) (noting that one reason for the Court's adoption of an 
             objective test for the reasonableness of a seizure was "the evidentiary difficulty of 
             establishing subjective intent" of officers).  An exclusionary rule turning on the 
             subjective motivation of the police officer would burden courts with the difficult 
             task of discerning, from the particular facts of each case, the thought processes of 
             the officer that resulted in the Miranda violation.  See Carter, 884 F.2d at 374 
             (reasoning that courts should not "once again be embroiled in the endless case-by-
             case voluntariness inquiries Miranda was designed to prevent [because] the ease-
             of-application rationale enunciated by the Supreme Court will be largely 
             nullified").  We believe a rule that provides certainty in application and clarity for 
             the officers charged with operating under it better serves the interests of citizens, 
             officers, and judicial efficiency.
     
                  Accordingly, we agree with the First Circuit's conclusion that the Wong 
             Sun fruits doctrine may apply to the physical fruits of Miranda violations, but we 
             decline to adopt Faulkingham's view that the physical fruits of a negligent 
             Miranda violation are admissible.  As a practical matter, we agree with the view 
             of the United States District Court for the District of Maine, expressed in an 
             opinion issued prior to Faulkingham:  
                            Prior to the decision in Dickerson, the issue of 
                       suppression of evidence discovered as a result of a violation of 
                       Miranda turned on a complex and largely opaque analysis 
                       attempting to resolve on an ad hoc basis the tension between 
                       the reliability of the subject evidence and the goal of 
                       deterrence of police misconduct.  This Court believes all of 
                       that has gone by the board with the conferral by Dickerson of 
                       constitutional status on the right to a Miranda warning.
                       
             United States v. Kruger, 151 F. Supp. 2d 86, 101-02 (D. Me. 2001) (citations 
             omitted), overruled by Faulkingham, 295 F.3d at 90-94.
                  As explained above, we conclude that Miranda's deterrent purpose would 
             not be vindicated meaningfully by suppression only of Patane's statement.  We 
             hold that the physical fruits of this Miranda violation must be suppressed.
             
     
                                      IV.  CONCLUSION
                  For the foregoing reasons, we AFFIRM the district court's order 
             suppressing the gun.(9)
    
    
    
             (9)      Defendant-Appellee's Motion to Clarify Statements Made in Defendant-
             Appellee's Previously-Filed Answer Brief is denied as moot.
             
    

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